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I mean, that's what we're going to have to do. and dropping bombs on rural desert areas, i'm telling you, after 15 years, it's ineffective. and if that's where we are right now in this fight, i'm more concerned about that than anything else, because we haven't learned our lessons. >> derek, the president, when he was asked if this bomb was to send a message, a broader message, a message to north korea, and when he was asked that, he said, i don't know, and it doesn't make any difference. do you agree? >> well, i don't think it was intended to send a message. as i said, i don't think the presid...

But frankly, kate, you know, the president has been approving, and the national security council, has been approving at very high-level strikes in afghanistan, iraq, syria. so, it does sound to me like president trump is going to decentralize command and control and authorization for these strikes, but that's a big bomb. and i do think that probably the president did have some say in that thing being dropped. what concerns me, though, is that the fact that we're still talking about big bombs being dropped on afghanistan 15 years after starting this war. it's an ineffective approach. it really ...

The difference, though, is i would like to see a president that is witting of these sorts of decisions. they may delegate the final authority to a commander in the field, but there's not much evidence to me to suggest that the president's actually focused at all on these kinds of operational details. >> hmm. lieutenant colonel scott mann, thank you so much. derek, great to meet you. thanks for coming on. >> thanks. coming up, the world waits to see what north korea's unpredictable dictator will do, as concerns mount that kim jong-un will launch a nuclear test in the next 24 hours. i'm going ...

So, big question here, did president trump personally green-light the bombing mission we were just talking about? he was asked that very question very directly. listen here to his answer. >> did you authorize it, sir? >> everybody knows exactly what happened. and what i do is i authorize my military. we have the greatest military in the world, and they've done a job, as usual. so, we have given them total authorization, and that's what they're doing. >> joining me now, lieutenant colonel scott mann, a former green bert in iraq and afghanistan. he is also the author of "gamechangers: going loca...

Decision that he made. and i think president trump has ceded a lot of authority to the military, a lot of decision-making power to the military, and he's quite happy to take credit for that when things go well. the question in my mind is whether he will be willing to share accountability when things go wrong, as, unfortunately, military affairs often do. >> and that is an interesting point, colonel, because the president has said that general mattis, the secretary of defense and others have wanted that decentralized approach. he's handed more authority over to the pentagon in order to authoriz...