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Panic and chaos. [background noises] exit selectivity it will come to order. This is a short hearing weve never had this combination of witnesses. A collection of expertise to help us make sense of what the chinese, and his partys doing in cyberspace and i can better defend ourselves. Our hats off we spent a lot of time on this committee debating or thinking about the question of whether xi jinping will make a move militarily against taiwan. And what would be a timeline for such a move . Obviously this is a nun on noble question people continue to debate it. In some meaningful sense i wonder i...

Exit selectivity it will come to order. This is a short hearing weve never had this combination of witnesses. A collection of expertise to help us make sense of what the chinese, and his partys doing in cyberspace and i can better defend ourselves. Our hats off we spent a lot of time on this committee debating or thinking about the question of whether xi jinping will make a move militarily against taiwan. And what would be a timeline for such a move . Obviously this is a nun on noble question people continue to debate it. In some meaningful sense i wonder if such an invasion or a preparation w...

Ethis committee will come t order. To help us understand what china is doing. We spend a lot of time on this committee debating whether xi jinping will make a move. This is a question that people continue to debate. I wonder if such an invasion or the preparation for such an invasion which would be incredibly costly as the Ranking Member very eloquently brought up yesterday has already begun. Put differently, the ccb has been attacking us. Government, our defense contractors, our Development Firms in cyber. And they had been robbing us on tech. And they used that to their military modernizatio...

Exit selectivity it will come to order. This is a short hearing weve never had this combination of the select committee will come to order. This is a historic hearing, we have never had this combination of witnesses, a fantastic collection of expertise to help us make sense of the Chinese Communist party is doing in cyberspace and how we can better defend ourselves. I thought this morning we spend a lot of time on the committee debating or thinking about the question of whether china will make a move militarily against taiwan and what would be the timeline of such a move. Obviously this is a u...

But now, what about. Delighted to finally welcome back, David Quammen to share with David Quammen 16 previous books include tangled tree the song of the dodo, the reluctance. Mr. Darwin and spillover, which was a finalist. The National Book critics circle award and a recipient of the premio la tarrio mark in rome. Hes written for the new yorker magazine, the atlantic national, and outside among others, and is a three time winner of the National Magazine kwame and shares a home here in bozeman with his wife. Betsy gave cronin. And you should check out her book author americans i am and they als...