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conservative or chaotic members of their conference who have put us in this position, but they honestly can't afford to wait around, let this come out and potentially risk not being able to get a set of rules to govern the conference going forward. >> speaking of transparency, jamie gangel, what about the fact we've had so much transparency we haven't been in legislative business so the c-span cameramen and women have been able to shoot anything they want as opposed to the government seizing what they have. are they going to allow the c-span cameramen and women to continue to show wh...

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It's been spectacular. but to your point about transparency, are we shocked, shocked, shocked that we don't know what the concessions are or what it's going to be? that is the epitome of what's been going on all this week. and it's -- it's not just that this group of 20 plus one present, the chaos caucus has held everybody hostage and kevin mccarthy hostage. but it's going to go on. the legacy will endure. >> so the clerk just called the house to be in order. there's going to be a prayer. john king apparently cnn reporters said that congressman scott perry who's one of these rebels although he...