Indent there is out there and how much interest has to be paid on the debt sooner rather than later and better be done. at least there is some talk but certain people are still fighting it and using it as a political tool. neil: we encouragingly sought present and carthy together yesterday in a state room. it was a st. patrick s day event. that inca pleasantries is as far as that got her desist debt crisis continued? yes. the only reason is not blown up as they keep raising more debt to cover yesterday s debt. all i can tell you, neil, i ve been saying this for a long time they are taunting the markets. they are taunting the economy. we are headed a trillion of our tax dollars each year will go toward interest. not towards the downtrodden, the elderly, the children, the roads and bridges but to interest. this is been going on for so long we ve been getting flapping