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To find and follow the couriers. that was a hypothesis with which we went into this four years ago or so. >> so this is classic human intelligence? you had people on the ground. they talked to people. they developed relationships. is that right? >> it is. but it also came out of detainee interrogations. one of the more prominent leads we had at the beginning of the exercise was partial identity information that came out of detainees that we were holding in our so-called black sites, and then from that point we used all the tools of intelligence. i can't go into detail, but it was signals intel...

Of details about how they got on to the couriers in the first place. i was told that there was crucial information that emerged out of detainee interrogations of high value detainees. one of whom was at guantanamo where references to this particular courier as being a trusted courier of bin laden first emerged, first put him on the radar screen of u.s. intelligence and for years u.s. intelligence has been trying to figure out who this courier was and where he was. they had his working name. they knew some information about him but not a lot. and focusing like a laser on that sort of network th...

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Survive those techniques burk to learn how to use some of them itself. i want to show you a document from guantanamo that was declassified after the fact. >> guidelines for employing s.e.r.e. techniques during detainee interrogations. the interrogation tactics used at military s.e.r.e. schools are appropriate. these tactics and techniques are used at the. . r.e. schools to break detainies. the techniques can be used to break detainees during interrogations. >> what is your reaction to 245? >> that is horrific. these are written in blood. these are techniques that u.s. service members died for....

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