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Right now. and nancy pelosi is out of one side of her mouth saying, okay, the president belongs in jail and then on the other hand saying, but i don't want to do it for political reasons. i'm saying you are not making a decision based on political decision because you're deciding that we have time to wait for 2020 when he told us that he's ready to steal the election before then. just saying. >> part of the issue, too, brian, is that, you know, the proceedings itself have been stonewalled. the president has made these extremely tenuous and aggressive assertions of privilege over ex-staffers. t...

The midterm elections to do something -- to avoid impeachment that was based on a kind of misunderstanding of what kind of person president trump is. right? they say that they -- they worry that he's trying to goad them into impeaching him because impeachment will be good for him. but he actually quite plainly seems very scared of impeachment. he's cooking up all these nonsense legal arguments. i will sue if they try to impeach me. which just isn't a thing. he attacks weakness -- he's a bully, that's how he operates. the failure to start an impeachment process is encouraging him to lawlessly b...

That in those days the republicans were actually patriots. >> i'm not sure that causal story's correct. my read of the causal story is that the impeachment inquiry began when most people didn't favor impeachment and moved in tandem with the hearings. >> that is true. because times are very different. >> yeah. >> there was no forum for learning about the things that we've learned about trump outside of the impeachment process. that's not true today. i mean, the analysis of what mueller, first of all, i don't believe for a minute trump's read the mueller report. i don't think he can possibly rea...

Even watching mike pompeo answering questions on the sunday shows looking like a complete befuddled fool. an absolute fool stripped down and trying to deny the reality. accepting foreign interference washington talk. >> i think he has a certain kind of demonic power. a perverse charisma that sucks people in and once they are in, it's hard to get out. listen, the proximity to power. >> the secretary of state. >> exactly. you are the secretary of state and working for the president of the united states. that is intoxicating if you have an inner emptiness. >> the person you see in the longest int...

Look, pelosi has not missed a step. she's the one person who has got donald trump's number in washington. she hasn't missed a step yet. i think it's great that people are calling for impeachment in the house. i don't think that's a problem. i think pelosi's playing her hand exactly right. >> so you basically think that it's a productive -- the dynamic is productive, the tension is productive. >> i absolutely think so. >> between leadership saying no, no, no, we want to be patient and member after member coming out? >> and that's why you see these numbers. the numbers in the public are fantasti...