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I think there were probably a number of candidates that -- we can go back and play this parlor game, but keir, i don't know that it really helps us for the future. what our party needs to do now, and i've seen it happening all across the country. you know, i've never stopped traveling and helping candidates that are running in these special elections. and you might not read it above the fold in "the new york times" or the "washington post," but our candidates out in the country at the local level are winning in state legislative races by 10 or 15 points better than anybody might have predicted...

Camaraderie internally. for us to see people on the outside making inaccurate accusations about what happened on the inside, you know, we wanted to make it clear that we don't see it the way some other people see it. >> michael, president trump has been using brazile's claims to call for the fbi and justice department to go after hillary clinton. is that fair? the election is over. >> donna brazile has been a warrior for the democratic party for decades and is a giant in the party. these allegations need to be taken seriously. i think democrats are not going to be able to move forward and enga...

Lens from the last election instead of focusing on speaking to voters for the next elections. we need to win in new jersey, win in virginia. i just came back from washington state where two cure ages women are fighting to win back their states state senate chamber. so god bless donna brazil. i have a lot of respect for herment she tells a great story. but we need to focus on the future. i think we've learned the lessons from the past. the party clearly put a foot on the scale and we have to refrain from doing that in the next election. >> and it's good to have you with us, governor, not least ...

Korea they actually get. >> yeah, because we didn't get a read out of the last meeting, i don't believe, or certainly there was still questions about what happened. i want to move to the domestic front. there have been a lot of developments in the mueller investigation. based on what we've learned from this past week, do you get the sense the probe is getting closer to touching the president? >> i don't know. i think robert mueller was clearly doing two things strategically this week. one was the dielt indictment of manafort and gates over matters that are at best tangentially related. it is a...

Popular support within his party, we as democrats were silent. we weren't allowed to debate until october. and we need to own that. that certainly wasn't part of our businessman in my campaign. being a relative unknown but with a record of progressive accomplishments second to no governor in the country. we anticipated that the party would not go silent. we thought that there would at least be a few prime time debates before the first votes were cast. and in hindsight that was a factor beyond our control but one that we did not anticipate. and as i read tom perez's memo from the dnc, it looks ...