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Times where he had an angel on one shoulder and devil on the other side, they were saying the same thing. we can get all the causes that we espouse, devil said, power, money, prestige. he did it was wasn't prepared. in the first campaign he did have people like that. >> mike: that's my point he chased them off. if you didn't agree with them, he shut you out. >> exactly. >> mike: is that what happened? >> exactly. >> mike: the devil was winning that discussion. >> the f first campaign we have david axelrod, harris hickman, he stuck around. we had people who had decades of experience. though ran...