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Time. >> but also, again, just to play devil's advocate here. i mean, for the biden administration, this is thousands and thousands of people who have turned up, illegally, in this situation. they are, already, overstretched with the afghan situation. processing people right now into the -- the system within the u.s. is stretched beyond capacity. there are only so many resources, particularly after the afghanistan situation. this -- the biden administration is arguing -- is the only way that they can cope is to send them back. >> right. well, the -- there are a couple of responses to that, as ...

But we have too many people in power who got the lessen from the arrogant from above, nobody is holding them accountable or cleaning shop. trey: you can argue i'll be a lawyer. play the devil's advocate, you could argue comey and mccabe were picked by other people, trump retained them and he picked wray. i heard them say you can either be part of clean up crew or cover-up crew. has anything changed? >> donald trump's biggest mistake was not cleaning house, a lot of us were advocating as he came in to get rid of jim comey, he already showed himself to be a problem at the beginning. we have seen...

I will play devil's advocate here a double edge sword when you go down the road of regulation and go down the road of what congress can possibly do, are you killing the goose that is laying the golden egg for america's economy? >> yeah. correct. i mean, i'm in the camp of those that doesn't -- i mean, thinks that people, users have to make their own decisions about social media, that's not necessarily government's call, but at the same time, more established companies long understood one of the reasons you share about best practices you do not give government an a reason to regulate you. you h...

Mask. now they want everyone to wear the masks. here we are with what appears to be to a certain extent is guidance that is squishy. >> for some weird reason this morning i was thinking when i was on the covid wards in april of 2020 and we were in full ppe but we weren't masking in the general population because at that time, number one we were concerned there wouldn't be enough n 95s for health care workers but we didn't have the sign that was robust and suggestive enough that masking would help reduce transmission but then more information was gained, more knowledge was then applied to the g...

We've taken but the factual precursors to that end the harm to the liberty interest is quite different. in that case versus our case. there are many differences and one of the strengths of our case is unique aspects of oregon statutory law and constitutional law which no cases of discussed before. laura: superintendent terry devi gave a statement that the agency supports the right of employees and oregonians to their first amendment right, i fully understand all employees won't agree with every decision but i expect them to follow rules, policies and law. i assume not everyone who to play devi...