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"the washington post" reported that sergey kislyak talked about the instigation having a private communications channel and wolf writes that the jared and ivanka faction and again this is wolff's characterization. the exact sourcing is unclear and as wolff says in the book because of the white house's lack of procedures for setting parameters for conversations. with that in mind, here's what wolff wrote. i'm quoting from wolff, "part of the by now deep enmity between the first family couple and their allies and bannon and his team was the jarvanka conviction that bannon and to be wholly discre...

Makes clear that he believes the russian investigation is very real and very warranted. he calls trump jr. and kushner quote treasonous for that 2016 trump tower meeting with russians. and he believes the special counsel is now focusing on the possibility of money laundering by the trump organization. not a hoax, not a witch hunt, not fake news says bannon, in fact, very much the contrary. and that is very real news. we're joined tonight by our panel and i want to start with you josh green. you're the author of the book "devil's bargain," which dives into the inside story of this relationship ...

Nothing else, you put the fun in dysfunction. you are not from the north. >> you are right about something. i am from the south. >> alisyn, to you. >> he puts the mooch in scaramucci. let's talk to the author of "devil's bargain", and steve chalian. do you want to say anything about scaramucci? >> what was most interesting in the interview, in a totally interesting interview, was the full concession and acknowledgment from scaramucci that the first year was n't working, and he just said to chris, to equate all the senior

He wasn't part of the campaign. >> of course he doesn't say anything until leaving the white house. he's actually speaking. look, think it's important that everybody in washington deal with the fact that a conservative or arch conservative and person behind breitbart and saying this is treasonous. >> it's interesting. let's fact check one part of this. president trump today saying steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool people with no access and no clue whom he helped write phony books. that might be you. >> i think it is. i appreciate t...

>> the heart of a servant really giving everything. >> so true. meanwhile, let's talk about this. the new profile of steve bannon who discusses his role in the white house, and he discusses his former boss, president trump, and he discusses what he's doing now and what he wants to do in the future so one part of the f"vanity fair" article says bannon has also remarked on the toll the office has taken on trump. let's bring back in our cnn political analyst, josh green, the author of "devil's bargain," and it provides insight into president trump and steve bannon. when you hear in the early th...