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Anti-democratic decision. understand, the filibuster itself is an anti-democratic, or undemocratic rule. the notion that the majority doesn't actually rule. it can be controlled by a minority. and by the way, bibas-ing the filibuster rule happens all the time. it happened a couple weeks ago. >> with a debt ceiling. >> exactly, with the debt ceiling. they do it all the time, they carve out exceptions, and what's better exception, then to have a functioning democracy. >> right, and to be clear, and to say when your democratic, use talking small democratic. >> i am. >> the former big d democrat g...

Image. there are people who just generally feel that we are not being tough enough. if they continue that into not just georgia, but florida, go to texas, go to north carolina, go to these places where people think they have free reign to restrict access to the ballot. and i think the will see an excited base. joining us now is for matt statues as governor devoun patrick, he's a former head of the justice department civil rights to vision, and is currently chair of america bridge 21st century. good to see you again. >> hi, good to be with you. >> your reaction to congressman clyburn's assessme...