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You're new to the game but people put you in a position of trust. it is fair game for you to say, it's not us, it's them. we have been all about the border. push back is you have been all about the fence and the men and women down there were saying we're not a fence away from fixing this. i'm not against physical barriers. they have their place. i don't think they're immorale. what is immoral is ignoring the rest of the equation. what is missing in terms of also up the food chain of people saying we have to do something about this right now. and chew gum, bring in azar alk- from hhs and bring ...

Barriers. they have their place. i don't think they're immoral. what is immoral is ignoring the rest of the equation. what i don't get is, what is missing in terms of also up the food chain of people saying we have to do something about this right now. bring in -- we said we can walk and chew game. bring in the czar from hhs and bring in the new dhs acting guy and what do you need now? is it something that the president can do with the emergency declaration? why isn't that happening? >> it's something that could be done with the emergency declaration but such a huge problem down in washington ...