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And continues to erode our most cherished and shared belief in free and fair elections. mr. chairman, i yield back. >> the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. schiff, for an opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. building on his constant repetition of the big lie, president trump engaged in an unprecedented effort to obstruct the joint session on january 6th. the proceeding where his electoral loss would be certified by congress. thissest began in part in a states which hold count and ultimately determine the winners of presidential election...

0 testimony from people we have not heard from before. it doesn't mean the justice department wasn't. but there was some evidence until they started -- remember, they started a year ago july >> that's right. >> long before justice was engaged january 6th. >> and we know they have spoken to more than a thousand witnesses. we don't know what the just department has said and done. they don't present it in the way congress does. it's very likely. and andrew made this point earlier, that the committee started sooner and may have moved more quickly. i have no doubt that the justice department, a, ha...

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Both need to be taught. both need to be reckoned with. the first step in that it is having an honest conversation. so we can heal and move forward. >> so, do you think the honest conversations are actually being able to be had in virginia? i mean, i do understand that the governor walked his proposals back just a little bit. that was only after backlash. had no one said anything, i feel like, the proposal would have stood. >> well, it didn't exist, people in virginia want this history to be taught. we were beginning to have a reckoning with our history. an honest conversation. in some cases, i...

Apple office, the apple campus, i met him once and he said, the office of the future must do what your home cannot do. what zoom cannot do. and so if the office didn't exist, imagine there were no offices, would we invent them? and if we invented an office from scratch, what would it look like? i don't know, but it wouldn't look like this. >> to walk around the apple campus, you would see how this is true. before people go, i don't think people know this about you. you made a big call on the january 6th insurrection day. you said, we're done. we're not renting out these airbnb for the inaugura...