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Was actually pro-active in going to the british public, the department for international development, and the charity commission, to explain that there had been serious misconduct, and we'd taken action. what oxfam didn't do was describe the detailed nature of the offenses, which included the use of prostitution. >> let's bring in cnn's erin mclaughlin following the story. it goes back to that age-old question, which is worse, the alleged crime or the alleged cover-up? tell us what are we hearing from oxfam about all of this? >> i think it's important to remind our viewers what haiti was like ...

Investigation. >> and those details, erin, important here, because given the allegations here, some agencies may have taken different steps. had they known those critical details, there's a lot, certainly, to look into with this, it also leads to that age-old question, the cover-up, which is worse, the cover-up or the crime? how has oxfam responded to these accusations? >> well, oxfam certainly not excusing the employees' behavior. but it is denying that a cover-up took place. take a listen to what the oxfam ceo had to say. >> well, i think at the time oxfam took serious and immediate action, ...

White house? would you have that access to bill clinton? >> i would hope not. there's always the possibility someone gets access, but you find out about it. you have communication with your staff people. if you see something that doesn't strike you, you get on top of it. these were early days. and apparently wolf just worked his way into the white house and got access both in the white house and outside with others speaking to him. again, i don't think we have seen anything quite like this, hallie. >> that is fair to say. pushing back on what wolf did and didn't do, did or didn't say, here's w...

Well, and basically putin comes in and says, well, i'm going to side kind of more with china on this because china is also sometimes helpful, but not as helpful as they should be. >> very quickly on the issue of ukraine, we know this administration as initialized the sale and transfer of force to the military government there. how do you think it will change things on the battlefield? something the obama administration didn't do, but certainly something the trump administration is doing, appearing anti-russian, if you will. >> there are a couple questions you asked in there. first of all, it's...

That's an interesting distinction. he at least tipped his cap toward some basic appreciation of the first amendment and free press in a way this president never does. >> that's the reason i say it's unprecedented. for all he did and didn't do, the president nixon never tried to say, look, this institution is worthless and never used the kind of language that the press, everybody in the press and media, enemies of the people, which echos through awe they're tearion regime. president nixon, i don't think he believed that that all press people are enemies of the people. we haven't seen anything l...