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On the accusation he loosely embraced white nationalism, he told the hollywood reporter, i'm a nationalist, an economic nationalist. >> what bannon says is that he is anti-globalists, eighanti-el an economic populist because he believes that the system has hurt and hindered the little guy, has nothing to do with race, religion or anything else. >> reporter: bannon jumped on the trump train early on, telling trump last year he was a big admirer. >> i said, look, people are leaning forward in these audiences when he was talking. of course we were mocked and ridiculed. >> now it's bannon who is m...

Not a white nationalist, i'm a nationalist. i'm an economic nationalist. >> bannon says he's anti-elite, anti-establish him ament and an economic populist because he believes that the system has hurt and hindered the little guy. has nothing to do with race, religion or anything else. >> reporter: bannon jumped on the trump train early on, telling trump last year he was a big admirer. >> i said look, people are leaning forward in these audiences when he was talking. of course we were mocked and ridicul ridiculed. >> reporter: now bannon is mocking the mainstream media who he blames for failing ...

Big admirer. >> i said, look, people are leaning forward in these audiences when he was talking. of course we were mocked and ridiculed. >> reporter: now it's bannon who's mocking and ridiculing the mainstream america, failed to recognize the frustration of americans left behind in the global economy. "it's just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no fing idea what's going on. if "the new york times" didn't exist, cnn and msnbc would be a test pattern." kurt, who quit breitbart, feeling it'd become a mouthpiece for trump, is critical of bannon. he says the darkness is good remark...

>> i said look, people are leaning forward in these audiences when he was talking. of course, we were mocked and ridiculed. >> reporter: now it's bannon who is mocking the main stream media who he plains for failing to recognize the frustration of americans left behind in the global economy. "if "the new york times" didn't exist, cnn and msnbc would be a test pattern." kirk bardello is now critical of bannon, seeing that "darkness is good" remark as chilling. >> i think that's how he sees the world. i think a lot of what you saw the trump campaign and what you'll see going forward is tapping i...

Got to listen to your customer. i think it's harder for people. >> i think to make something where something didn't exist, that requires a little bit of ego, but that ego can also destroy the thing you made or undo the success you had. it's a balance. >> so you have to -- we talk about hiring people smarter than you, but it's more than that. it's hiring people smarter than you and listening to them. >> listening to them and people who are better or more successful than you. if you go way back, there's a stoic philosopher, he says one cannot learn that which they think they already know. if you...