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Destabilizing america in some way. >> no question. you have to remember, coming out of the 1990s, actually most of chechnya was quite convinced the united states was fully backing the russians in committing the atrocities they it in the course of that war. and likewise, frankly, despite the deating relationship between the last decade, the belief is the west is backing putin as he engages in heavy handed repressions in the so-called insurgency period of the war. all of that would have been a part of a received narrative that both of the tsarnaev brothers, but in particular the older brother, w...

That they were not affiliated with an outside group. and then you have jay carney at the white house suggesting that that interpretation i just shared is not necessarily the correct interpretation. you have a lot of different conflicting messages coming from the administration about the details of this case. i think it reflects, to be generous, the fact that there is a lot of uncertainty about what exactly is going on, and i -- there was a lot of clean-up that had to be done by state department officials and jay carney about the comments made by the principles, mr. biden and mr. kerry. piers? ...

People should carry bombs around, is it? >> well, i don't have a problem? like i said, you're not going to be able to stop violence by getting rid of the inanimate object. you're not going to get rid of criminals are still going to have guns. >> that wasn't my question. >> my point is, if you believe the answer to gun violence is more guns. >> guns are already illegal. aren't they illegal? >> you think the only way to deal with this is more guns -- the whole point -- guns are illegal. the whole point of the gun control campaign wasn't to grab your guns or anybody else's guns, it was to try to ...

With a pressure cooker other than kill people? >> you can cook food. >> what can you do with a gun other than shoot things? >> other than shooting. i guess you can use it as a walking stick. you can hunt with it, target practice, all sorts of things. >> you can use a gun as a walking stick? >> i guess theoretically, you could. you could use it as a hammer if you wanted to. we're talking about an inanimate object that does nothing by itself. now that gun control has failed, i'm wondering, when are you going to move to england. everyone in tennessee is dying to know. >> i'm going to hang around ...

Boston bombings. stacy canfield joins me now. why did you do this? >> pointing out the hypocrisy of the left, how they push for gun control ten seconds after sandy hook shooting. when something else happens, they refuse to say, it's not an inanimate object it's the person. when people go on and say, we have to get rid of guns, push for gun control, it's ridiculous, it's like pushing for pressure cooker control after the explosion. >> what other things can you do with a pressure cooker other than kill people? >> you can cook food. >> what can you do with a gun other than shoot things? >> other ...