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Complicated because he's getting die metically different rules one from the congressional committees that issued a subpoena and one from the white house who says they don't want him to talk. >> reporter: i reached out to kupperman's attorney last night and this morning and haven't heard back definitively. it remains to be seen. but t this is important for a couple of reasons, you know one is because we've seen other former white house officials just go ahead and defy or look past the guidance from the white house and come and speak anyway so this is different. the other is, mr. kupperman and j...

>> colonel, the russians raising their hands now as mediator. could they be an accepted and unbiased mediator in this for the u.s.? >> they can be useful because they can talk to both sides. i agree with what kim says, in the putin playing the statesman. he's done this with egypt and libya. so now he's tried to supply china. can he bring the two sides together who have die metically opposing positions? i don't know if he's serious or making a political play. >> we may forget that russia was there with the u.s. during the iran-nuclear negotiations. they were parties to that agreement there. kim...

Summit coming up will be challenging for trump, because he will meet with leaders that are die metically opposed to trump. his blocking of refugees coming in at a time when germany for example has taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees from syria. so there are those issues, there's the issue of globalization there's also going to be this meeting for the first time between president trump and president putin of russia. the white house has been asked whether he will talk about the election hacking issue, the push back is there there are going to be discusses about issuings like syria. so a l...

Away voters. these are states that in the latest polling are leaning towards thaint we're talking about. do you see any evidence, any trends that would indicate to you, smart political analysis that you are, the situation in these places could be changing in donald trump's favor right now? >> i don't see it yet. i know -- let me use colorado as an example where he was twice this weekend. to me that is the state in talking to both campaigns that both campaigns see most differently. die metically opposed in colorado. the trump folks think there's something there for them to explore. clinton folk...

Solely on defeating isis. this is one of the problems that we're seeing right now with saudi arabia, turkey, qatar and some of the other arab gulf countries who are more focused on overthrowing the syrian government of assad, an objective that is die metically opposed to our objective and what our objective and focus should be, which is defeating isis, al qaeda and other extr e extremist groups. if we and these countries are successful in overthrowing the government of assad, it will help isis and open the door for them to walk in, take over control for all of syria, presenting an even greater...