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Show off in the past. julian, what do you make of stone's obsession with richard nixon? >> he worked for nixon many decades ago. this is a person who's been playing dirty tricks for the republican party since richard nixon. he loves nixon. i think he really still embodies the kind of politics he practiced in the early 1970s. stone will do anything to win. he will send out disinformation. he will play tricks on the opposition. and i think that's why a lot of republicans shudder to see him back in the news right now. literally flashing the nixon signs. as people are making this comparison betwee...

Listening to the same person i interviewed for this story that we published about her. she presented this to me and i wondered how she would do in the face of this incredible pressure, under intense scrutiny by not just the senators in front of her but really millions of people around the country. she came across just the way she did to me. >> i am not asking you to reveal your sources, but i think that many americans do want to know how the letter to dianne feinstein that was supposed to be secret and confidential got leaked. do you have any information on that? >> i don't know who leaked the...

Ultimately of signing statements in terms of the final recommendation to the president. >> and just a few months later, you, under oath, told us you were not involved in any of the questions about the rules governing deattention of combatants. >> senator, i understood it then and i understand it now to be referring to the program we were talking about that was very controversial that senator feinstein spent years trying to dig into, and i was -- i was not read into that program. i told the truth about that. and -- >> let me go to another area of questioning, if i can. thank you very much. in y...

Credibility issue. in fact, he does. don junior testified under oath about this. the president talked about it. we haven't heard michael cohen talk about it, and so there's no way right now for us to measure his credibility. and in terms of the phone call, i would expect that don junior and his dad are probably talking multiple times a day about lots of different things. so, you know, the first point is maybe cohen is telling the truth, or maybe he's not telling the truth. but we're not in a position yet to be able to judge that. >> but here's how you would know, ross, right? if this part is t...

About it. we haven't heard michael cohen talk about it. so no way for us to measure his credibility. and in terms of the phone call i would expect don junior and his dad are probably talking multiple times a day about lots of different things. so the first point is maybe cohen is telling the truth or maybe he's not telling the truth. but we are not in a position yet to be able to judge that. >> but here's how you would know, ross, if this part is true, that it was a meeting with more people than just don junior then candidate trump and cohen, now you've got something else for mueller to dig in...