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Joe manchin calling for a strategic pause on the $3.5 trillion social spending plan. making what was already a tough and complex negotiation even tougher which could jeopardize biden's bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> exactly. i mean, manchin's euphemism of a strategic pause is not good news for the democrats. i still think it is possible to overstate how much some of these recent events especially in afghanistan will filter into domestic policy and i don't think that we can make a blanket statement about what the impact will be. it is very case specific. it still seems more likely than not ...

Of america's longest war surrounded by insurgents, some appear to have links to al qaeda. a very fraught security situation rather than keeping the evacuation going. the difficulty seems to have slowed enormously. >> the white house -- >> sorry. >> sorry, nic. the white house is pushing back on the idea of 36 hours. i mean, it's not an official policy per se, but it is effectively what we are going to see or already seeing with the dipping numbers, nic. >> reporter: yes, i don't quite know what the official policy sometimes is in this regard because they appear to be essentially saying we're g...