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In the country suffer a little to get this game that he's going after. i don't think he will be hard-hit. i was very interested in a point the ukrainian foreign minister made. that was the budapest agreement in 1994. it was an amazing thing at the end of the soviet union with so many soviet nukes all over the soviet union. that countries like ukraine that had hosted some of those soviet nukes gave them up to agreement that russia and the other countries would recognize and protect their sovereignty and protect them in the future. and emthat was a big thing for ukraine to do. they stepped up to...

Investigation into the 2016 medaling from russia to the u.s. election, there had been concerns about a blind spot potentially into the kremlin for u.s. intelligence here, especially after a top source close to the kremlin had to be ex-filtrated to the u.s. given the array of information that has been released publicly by this administration the last few weeks, are you surprised that the level of intel that the u.s. seems to have regained inside the kremlin? and it appears -- it appears, jim, we -- this is what happens with technology, it appears we lost director clapper. it is interesting, we ...

Putin is not getting much push back for the meetings he has been conducting. he does not have anybody telling him what he is doing is dumb or not the smart thing to do. he is surrounded by basically yes men that are not going to push back. >> we are out of time director clapper. but how worried should the u.s. be that russia will retaliate against the united states by launching cyber warfare against the highly vulnerable u.s. industries and others? >> we should be concerned about it. that is a great question. we need to do all we can to shore up our defenses because i expect that if there is p...

Director clapper, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, jim, thank you for your great reporting. stay safe out there. >> i want to ask you about what we're seeing play out here, and that is a greater russian willingness, frankly it seems deliberate, to target civilians. they're now surrounding cities here. they're dropping very powerful weapons close to and perhaps deliberately targeted at civilians. is that deliberate in your view, and should we expect any restraint from vladimir putin as we watch this play out? >> yes and no. it is quite expectable. i think this has been the p...

Fire here, as well as the growing claims by russia both in state media and public statements that ethnic russians in eastern ukraine are under threat. is that the kind of false flag or false pretext that the u.s. is looking for right now? >> i think so, jim. i don't know that this is a provocation, but it certainly fits the bill. and, of course, russians can justify that they have to move in to eastern ukraine, donbas region, to restore stability and protect the separatists. so we have been looking for provocation, intelligence community dimed out the russians on some previous potential false ...