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He's telling putin and the russians exactly where he is? >> well, who would have thought that someone of his professional background as a actor, comedian, would rise to the occasion as he has? and it's almost like he's in the information sphere, poking putin in the eye, almost daring him. he's obviously been a tremendous inspiration to his own people. i think he is to the extent that's possible, stiffened their resolve even more. so it's really quite remarkable, but i think he is attempting to message putin directly. >> he's a very, very impressive 44-year-old leader of ukraine right now. very...

See the fear that they're experiencing. some of them have lost their homes. some of them both the account number. it's living in constant fear and not knowing what tomorrow brings. >> the hints is on. remarkably you were able to get there. i appreciate you talking to us, thank you. >> thank you. >> be careful. reaction to the situation in kharkiv. we have james clapper. director clapper, you heard our last guest. you've seen impages from kharkiv. i mean, obviously we have seen

Believes are around 5,000 to 6,000 russian soldiers who have been killed so far in their campaign. that number could be higher, and, of course, the wounded could be multiple times, that is three times -- >> generals being killed shows the nature of the conflict here and the closeness of the fighting. alex marquardt, thank you, let's go to ana in new york. >> stay safe there. we're joined by cnn security analyst and former director of national intelligence, james clapper, director clapper, misinformation, and lies really fueled this conflict, and justified putin's actions, just today, more li...

Away from the kind of hostile attitude towards the u.s. where they were blaming the u.s. for everything and more toward one that says, let's try to find a way out of this crisis. >> director clapper, in our last segment, was saying he thought impossible that china might try to provide non-lethal assistance to vladimir putin, for meals ready to eat, which clearly shed the logistical problems the russian forces are having on the ground in ukraine. he thought it less likely that they would provide military weaponry, not wanting to have chinese vehicles being seen taking part in the war against uk...

We're trying everything we can, you know, with the restrictions on now cutting out russian oil imports, and all the other sanctions. if we're going to get to putin, i think it's in the information realm and trying to get to his citizens, but how do induce him to change? i don't know. >> you talk about the information realm, director clapper, getting to his citizens, which is becoming increasingly difficult. do you believe there's still a path there to penetrate this propaganda in russia? >> well, overtly or covertly. there have to be ways to get to this citizens of russia. a lot of them are ve...