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Upside down because they feel like washington turned them upside down. >> listening to kellyanne i actually got afraid, i was fearless for the first time. i don't want to be partisan and go after the white house on this because god help us, chuck, if we actually have a national crisis because that's keystone cops over there, right? such dysfunction and a congress that sits by and twiddles its thumbs, i'm actually fearful for our country that we have this level of dis function in the executive branch. if we do have a national crisis, how do we deal with it if that's over at the white house? >> ...

From within. >> the white house, yes. and we see it from the outside. you talk about chaos and dis function, anything here on a daily basis sees that. and there are people who acknowledge that inside the white house and those who do not and defend the president. and so coming from someone on the inside like bannon who was close to the president, despite what the president is saying now, that person coming forward saying it has some gravitas that otherwise had not been involved in that issue before. and that's pretty important to acknowledge. now, there are all kinds of things going on saying t...

Quick. i don't talk to him. that's just a misnomer. thank you. >> as we wait for sarah sanders to start that briefing there, let's talk. joining me now cnn abby phillip with the cold outside of washington. and nice and cozy inside chris our politics. >> never braving the cold. with a face like this. >> abby. >> i'm jealous. >> i'm starting with you. because you are the tough one standing out there. listen, this book, fire and fury, it confirms what we have witnessed for the past year, that there is this overwhelming level of chaos and dis function that's been involving the white house. we hear...

Are two. >> that's right. that's something that's different. we heard mitch mcconnell he never refused a meeting with barack obama at the white house. i don't recall barack obama sending out a tweet, saying that the deal is not going to happen here. so new rules and new ball game here. but the reality here is the burden still rests on this congress on republicans and democrats to figure out the end of the year spending bill. but democrats now that republicans will own any potential government shut down. they are in control of the senate. in control of the house. so the democrats here have some...

Than illness. if she had the power to do it, which she didn't. so i think much has been made of this. i think it's a lot of inside the beltway crap. i would agree that there is disagreement and dis function inside the democratic party but that has nothing to do with what's going on in the republican party. >> we'll talk about that. because we have the mou reporting coming out with the hillary clinton campaign and dnc, how uncommon is that, and also ahead to the dysfunctionality? >> that has nothing to do with dysfunctionality either. this is standard operating in the general election, not the ...