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Tailor-made case for what the founders meant to protect against when they installed impeachment in the constitution. that's the big difference between clinton. in the clinton case people said the president lied, by lied about sex and that's not something the founders cared about. that was not an abuse of power, abuse of office. it was perjury, eventually we came to the conclusion. >> and i can point something out? just because i keep seeing it every day. let's be very clear. and, again, we probably should have just censured it. but bill clinton lied about sexual harassment, committed perjury i...

Aren't true. you've got much better arguments to make than that one. >> i think you would disagree, joe, even for those who pursued impeachment in '98, there are a lot of people that think in retrospect it was legitimate to impeach him for lying in a sexual harassment case, that was inappropriate behavior on the part of the president. but no one argues that that was what the frame hers had in mind the constitutional provision for impeachment was designed to excel presidents for office for that kind of a lie as opposed to what donald trump did. which is, as we all know, jarm minute said the fac...

The day after the mueller report he goes right after foreign interference again. but it's a sober time. i agree with nancy pelosi when she says this is not a time of joy. you know there's people all over the country saying hooray, this is our team doing something. but the team is the country. and that team has to come to some understandable solution. this is say big, big thing to do. >> it is. just to follow up on what doris said about this is a story that's a bit easiert story to understand. i remember during the clinton era there was one investigation after another. americans could focus on ...