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So from the judicial appointment standpoint, don't you think they're saying, who cares, i'm not going to know that guy in four or eight years. and these judges will be position for a lifetime? >> yeah, a couple of things, they're selling their soul for judges. and i don't think that's a good trad there's a tremendous and huge discrediting effect that's happened to evangelical christians. they were ones, during the clinton years and before, who argued about the centrality of morality in leaders. they can never make those arguments again. and where the real hypocrisy is, they could easily say, l...

Investigation, that would have a discrediting effect in the context of a different investigation. whether it's justifiable or not, of course, depends on the evidence that the public doesn't have access to right now. >> andrew mccabe has apparently just released a statement tonight. it's a rather lengthy one. i will try to read some of it. actually, i'm going to start reading it and then, price, give us your reaction again to the possibility that this is actually, the timing of this is related to mueller investigation because andrew mccabe is obviously a witness in that investigation. as ben wi...