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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20220107 21:55:00

Americans. we re a democracy. they re significant. and the thing is, i think what people don t understand always is that disinformation doesn t radicalize people. it s a gateway it s not a gateway drug. people are radicalized much more we saw this with isis when i was in the state department, much more by an em deem logical model, by people that they know already, by intimates. i mean, you know, were talking about the oath keep and these illegal militia groups. there s a reason why the people in there are brothers and cousins. they radicalize each other. the disinformation and the conspiracy theories increases enthusiasm. it s a kind of a force multiplier, but it doesn t actually create radicals from the get-go, and i think we have to realize that. but i think and i, you know, have been on the disinformation front for a while, and i m a little disheartened because it s ....

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