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Mission as well. i had a feeling that i got ready for this moment in my life and this moment in the history of my country that i've got prepared, the whole experience previous was for that. i got ready for that before. and i'm happy to be with my country right now. >> well, you're doing such important work. i want to ask you, going into this war, there was so much talk about russia's powerful disinformation machine, but we've seen that ukraine has managed to, and journalists like yourself, has managed to get the truth out. do you see that russia's losing the information war here? >> i'm not an...

Is the white house publicizing the troop build-up of the russians in hopes of deterring moscow and does the white house think the strategy is working and are you prepared to release more details what you say russia has been doing? >> yes on the last one. as we have it, and i think you have all experienced that in here, also at the state department, and defense department briefings, and certainly from briefings delivered which national security officials, senior national security officials as well. i will say josh that we are much more cognizant of the russian disinformation machine than we wer...

Going into ukraine. huge kudos to the biden administration and admiral haynes to essentially allow them to control the perception globally that vladimir putin is the aggressor. what's interesting is that may not have any effect on vladimir putin. that's important to keep allies together. what's interesting in watching even the events described in eastern ukraine today is he seems to be doing what he was planning to do anyway and that may be enough for him to have a narrative for his public at home and kick his disinformation machine into high gear abroad. >> the point is that he doesn't have t...

A lot of this is just the way that propaganda has always worked, putting out heroic narratives, it's always worked. but they have also been speaking directly to the russian people, in trying to breakthrough russian narratives, which is very hard to do. i mean, putin's disinformation machine has been touted so much over -- four decades as the scary thing that can really cause a lot of damage. and they seem to be kind of cutting it off at the root, by not allowing these russian air it is to take hold at all. they are kind of saying you are going to hear that troops are deserting and you are goin...

Ukrainians to at least help to slow, if not stop, some of those bombardments. we need to look at ways we can put additional pressure on putin at home. clearly there is discontent, division in russian society, we have to ensure that russians are seeing what's happening in ukraine. that's why i call for an information invasion of russia. clearly russia has already invaded the united states from an information standpoint, i think we should return the favor and ensure russians can see exactly what putin is doing in ukraine, because that would serve to undermine some of the puffed up propaganda tha...