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The united states, why? it's possible what's happening in australia might be instructive to us in the united states. in just two years, the australian police went from raiding news rooms to beating people in the streets. so, maybe the lesson is things can change very quickly. one moment, the english-speaking world is mocking china for being distaupe yeah and autocratic. the next moment they're hunting people down who are two blocks away from their own homes and smoking a cigarette. kadim has been watching very closely what's happening in australia. he's a director of policy in the university o...

Going to be an islamic utopia you said. >> yeah. >> what was it like when you got there? >> distaupe yeah. you could see madness in their eyes. >> hey, america. >> they started to execute people for things which even in islamic law you would not be executed for. i remember the images of a young teenager being executed because he ate during ramadam. to them everything became a capital offense because they are a death cult. >> i did see severed heads on spiked poles. >> you saw heads on a stick? >> yeah. >> and what did you think? just blocked it out. i tried to ignore it.