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Reason for that. the senate is being waged on republican turf basically. it's trump states that are going to decide the balance of power in the senate, not so when it comes to the house. let me show you our brand-new nbc news "wall street journal" poll. here's the bottom line question, they call this one, the generic ballot. which party do you want to have control congress. democrats leading in our poll on this question by seven points. that's about in line with where democrats have said all year they need to be to get control of the house. remember, because of all sorts of factors, the way po...

Well, you are out, and that's why politicians like to draw their own district lines so they can fix and rig the system. for more than 200 years now, they have been rigging the system and this is why i said, enough is enough, and it is not a popular thing to do. >> you were just in michigan and colorado. that's two states where -- those are two states where -- >> i was in utah and missouri. so, those are the four states now, and they all four have a chance of winning if they win, i think this will be a big step forward again, and you have to take incremental steps, but you know, as i say, i'm a...

Because they understand what is at risk. >> you have nine seats at stake, the republicans have, what, 26. you look at the governors mansions and we often look to them as places that have huge power when it comes to redire redistricti redistricting, obviously there is a census in 2020. if you take control or retake control of several of these states around the country will you try to redraw the maps to benefit democrats? >> well, mostly what we will do is to try to give people the right to vote. right now the republican operatives are deciding who your member of congress is and, you know, in do...

>> the idea we would take the authority to draw these maps out of the hands of the people elected by the people strikes me as just a real distance from where we are and where we ought to be in this country. >> bret: this has to do with redrawing districts, this could be a big deal in carolina. >> several republican members of congress could be at risk under redrawing districts. republicans were redrawing district lines. it could push the election later, it's possible north carolina would not be prepared to hold its election on election day because of this court fight. the supreme court does no...

>> you going to do that? >> of course. >> the congressional district keeps changing. that's what gerrymandering does. it finds the voters most applicable to the party that wants to have those voters. so they move the lines to accommodate what candidates they want. >> we are really the only modern democracy in the world that allows our politicians to draw their own lines and choose their own voters. >> the reason people should be concerned about gerrymandering is because as a result of the way district lines are drawn, election results are preordained well before november. >> the savviest strat...