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Issues in a defense bill because the far right, the imagine fringe, the freedom caucus they are obsessed with culture wars. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy took up the mantle of social conservatives. >> we are watching the deterring of our military training. i think it harms us with our adversaries. >> there's a plan to prevent the pentagon for paying for hormone treatment tore gender altering surgeries. this amendment will likely lead to service members leaving the military. >> there is also a proposal to end diversity programs in the armed services. >> the american people i talk to back home...

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Overturn other diversity programs. and i think that it will, as a legal matter, make it easier, bu. easier to do so but we should be clear eyed about just how pervasive of affirmative action is in corporations. there's to examples too many exs to list, but just to name a few. ib ibm,m microsoft and google all cap the number of white and asian applicantstigiou to prestigious research fellowships. pfizer completely barred whites and asians from a nine year a ng fellowship that includer d a fully funded master's program. a bunch of companies tie executivbupanies tiee compensat achievement of inte...

Against asians is just not ri right. but to your question i do not think it's going to impact so-called diversity programs and hiring incorporations as long as they steer clear of carving out specific quotas, real specific equations giving people benefits simply and solely because of their racial background and so forth. but again your point is really key and that's a take away from the decision is let's not everybody get totally over the skis with the social and political comments about it and how it's going to set everything back and destroy diversity. because it is not. it's really more of ...

Race conscious decision-making, race conscious actions in employment law, it's been illegal and still illegal. >> do you think with the supreme court ruling we will see challenges to that? >> yes. i have noticed an increasing number of challenges to corporate dei programs and i would expect this decision is going to shine even more of a spotlight about how out of alignment some of those programs are. and to be clear, i'm not criticizing all diversity programs, it really depends on how they are structured, but the extent they are explicitly or implicitly taking race into decision-making for emp...