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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 09:35:00

Evidence she needs will never come to light. it s their duty to uphold the law. again, this grand jury is the best opportunity to fully vet all of the evidence that s available, and they can make recommendations taos what charges if any should be brought. is it notable that d.a. willis has requested that an individual county judge be appointed to oversee the grand jury and supervise their work, or is that just how these things are handled? that s how these things are handled. it helps her in the event there is any sort of dispute with a particular witness, particularly if that witness hires counsel and they want to contest this subpoena. it allows them to have one judge that would resolve all of those issues over the course of the impanelment of the special grand jury rather than it going to different judges on different days. gwen keyes fleming, former district attorney in dekalb ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 09:31:00

Attorney in fulton county. she s known the district attorney for years. ms. keyes fleming, you have helped us understand so much about this case. i appreciate your making time to help us tonight now that this big step has happened. my pleasure. the last time you were here, we talked about the prospect that dmt a. willis might move to impanel a special grand jury. what is important to understand now that she s done it and the reasoning for doing it that she s laid out in this letter. well, i think it s a smart move and a strategic move. she has indicated previously that she would be methodically working through all of the evidence in this case and use all of the resources available to her to do just that. and a special grand jury is one of those tools and resources that allows her to subpoena witnesses. she notes in the letter that she has run into the challenge of ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 09:28:00

Jury, why she s asking for this step at all. . on the one hand there s a very straightforward reason. there s a call that then president trump made to georgia s secretary of state last jarngs brad raffensperger, pressuring him to find enough votes. in her letter d.a. willis cites recent states saying he will only speak to investigators from her office in this case if he is compelled to do so by a subpoena. well, she needs a grand jury in order to get subpoena power. a special grand jury cannot issue indictments but they can issue subpoenas to obtain testimony and obtain evidence. that s something the fulton s d.a. office cannot do on its own. they re ready to go forward with subpoenas in order to get testimony and they need a grand jury. apparently it s not just brad raffensperger. a specific number of witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 09:27:00

Impanelled, it will sit indefinitely. grand juries in georgia sit, i think, for two months this. one will not have a two-month time restriction. they ll work indeaf nistly and only on this one case. willis rights it will likely exceed a grand jury term of two months. so for those of us who aren t familiar with this kind of a process, at least this kind of a process in this state, this raises a bunch of interesting questions, right? how rare is a request like this? will the judges say yes? is it unusual to ask a judge to oversee this, or is that sort of standard operating procedure? is there anything we can read into the d.a. s confidence and the amount of evidence she s already amassed that she s willing to take this step? there s also what willis says is the need to impanel this grand ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 09:34:00

If you recall some of the earlier statements d.a. willis has made, she was looking at four different elements here. she was looking at the january 2nd call, she was looking at the january 4th resignation of the u.s. attorney, she was looking at an earlier november call between one of the senators and the secretary of state s office, and she was also looking at statements that were made to the georgia legislature. so she sh demonstrates the complexity and why a special grand jury would be warranted in this case. i think it s also important to point out with the judge s vote because she is seeking this grand jury in light of renosance with that, i think it s very unlikely judges will award that opposition by denying her request. if they say no, then all the ....

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