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Rarely see anymore. the kind of platform fight that would be distracting and embarrassing for the president of the united states. if he wants to maintain his current position on this issue and keep the party platform in line with him, he would have to go to the mat on this. we'd have to use precious political capital and fight against the stated preferences of the house minority leader, four former dnc chairs and it appears his own vice president. joi joining us is the founder of the freedom to marry campaign. they are the master minds behind the petition. great to have you here. >> great to b...

Would be distracting and embarrassing for the president of the united states. if he wants to maintain his current position on this issue and keep the party platform in line with him, he would have to go to the mat on this. we'd have to use precious political capital and fight against the stated preferences of the house minority leader, four former dnc chairs and it appears his own vice president. joining us is the founder of the freedom to marry campaign. they are the master minds behind the petition. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> i want to get your thoughts on the vice presi...

Appears to be on a collision course toward a platform fight. the kind of platform fight you rarely see anymore. the kind of platform fight that would be distracting and embarrassing for the president of the united states. if the president wants to maintain his current position on this issue and keep the party platform in line with him he'd essentially have to go to the mat on this. we'd have to use precious political capital to tamp down the civil rights aspirations of key constituency and fight against the state minority leader p 11 state chairs, four former dnc chairs, and it appears his own...