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Investigate whether kushner is in violation of the hatch act. citing a "new york times" report that kushner has been involved in fund-raising for trump's 2020 re-election campaign. larry noble is here, federal counsel for the election commission. larry, what is legal and what isn't legal when it comes to someone in kushner's position? >> right. well, the hatch act is an 80-year-old statute that prohibits federal employees, except for the president and vice president, from doing political activity on government time or using government resources for doing political activity. so if jared kushner...

The fact is, government employees right this moment are following that law. they know that they have to follow that law. and that they cannot do any campaigning or do any campaign activity while they're working for the government, while they're on government time. and we have to continue to go through all the steps necessary to make sure those laws are enforced. now, if trump decides in the end he's not going to enforce the laws, that's his decision. but we cannot stop pointing out when, in fact, the laws are broken or investigating allegations that they are breaking the law. >> jared kushner ...