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This point to debate. >> right, right. i think he is -- kent is unambiguous there in his statement. really saying, look, as far as he was concerned, and it's corroborated by others, this is what the president wanted. and absent the president of ukraine going out and making these commitments that aid was not going to flow. and these are career officials. they don't take political stances. that policy of the administration was to provide that aid to ukraine and they are saying, what is the problem here? and it's very suspicious. when it becomes clear what the problem is, they sound the alarm. >>...

Said in early september, according to mr. morrison on the national security council president trump told sondland he was not asking for a quid pro quo. but president trump did insist that president zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of biden and the 2016 election interference and this of course is in the context of fact that the ukrainians are wondering where the military aid is and it is not there. for the president to say it is not a quid pro quo but you have to go do x -- >> it is not only a quid pro quo if you say it in latin. if it happens in english, it coul...

Is no -- if it is benign. if you don't through this transcript see that the president says said i'm withholding x many millions of dollars if you don't do x, y, z for me, legally speaking is that still election interference? >> yes. that's not all there was. we know rudy giuliani was involved, went over there. other conversations and other things goinging on. that is one piece of the puzzle. we really need to see the whistle-blower complaint. that was deemed credible and urgent and had more information than that one call. speaking of the whistle-blower, dana bash, adam schiff tweeted news. wha...

At the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪ not owing anyone anything is the best feeling in the world, i cannot stop smiling about it ♪ ♪ >> time for "one more thing" right now. i'm going to start. with all the controversy about justice kavanaugh in the news, i want to suggest you take a look at a new documentary on fox nation. it's about clarence thomas. my desk was ringing, no clarence thomas, was involved with drugs, did clarence thomas do x, y, z? just every kind of scurrilous possible rumor. >> the thomas hearings still resonate to this day and remain

In order for us to keep the economy growing, i've got to ask the house representatives to do x. they ain't doing x. >> maria: this is where it moves into politics. the subject of on appointment is not a good subject for the democratic candidates, because we are at a 51 year low. we are looking at better than 2% growth and in the first quarter. >> carl: and wages. yet, under the last two years of the obama administration, wages were rising more than the working people underneath them. i think it was about 75% more. in the last two years, the wages for working people have been rising 35% higher ...