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About what they're interested in, what charges they're thinking of bringing, whether he might cooperate. all of these things are things that the lawyers have -- the prosecutors and the defense lawyers. my guess is that michael cohen is readying himself to get past this document review, which did not reveal very many privileged documents to this point. and there's still a lot that remain to be searched. but he's starting to get ready for the big time, which is what actually happens with the case and whether he is charged. >> nelson is, there anything unusual thus far in all your experience, as ...

>> well, the answer to the first is i don't think it's a ploy to delay the case because there is not yet a case. let's remember what's going on right now is simply a review of documents that were seized pursuant to search warrants. heeen charged with any crime yet. and so there is no case here. what i think is happening is that michael cohen is recognizing that he needs to get ready for the preindictment phase of this case, whicans that there will be negotiations with the u.s. attorney's office about wh they're interested in, what charges they're thinking of bringing, whether he might cooperat...

Quixote. michael cohen's legal battle shakeup foretells a possible battle with trump." and democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. let's get the update on michael cohen, emily. everyone keeps asking him if he's going to flip. why wouldn't he and what's the timeline on this? >> well, michael cohen is in a place of leverage right now. he feels like he has not been protected by the president, by the president's family and be his inner circle in washington and this is a man who's been around for more than a decade and seen a lot of things and done a lot of things. he has not been supporte...

Finalized. >> gloria, let me bring in paul. what is your reaction to this? in the middle of the fight of his life, he's splitting from his attorney. what is your take? >> i agree with gloria, we don't have enough information to reach a firm conclusion, but my own sources in new york indice coh a change of attorney for a while. attorney, who is a washington, d.c. based attorney, and very, very highly regarded, because he wanted a big firm. the micdermott, will and emery firm, for this 5 million document review. it's not unusual to use one firm for one task and a different attorney for a differe...

Familiar with trying cases in the southern district. steve ryan is known more as a washington lawyer. now, in fairness to steve ryan, he's very well regarded and tried criminal cases, as but this doesn't mean that cohen is cooperating. it could mean a lot of other things. >> does it matter, paul, who dropped who? >> no, because it could -- you don't know what the back story is between the attorneys and cohen. if they got wind of fact that cohen was loo for a change, that angers them and they're probably happy to get out of the case. they may have come in only for the purpose of handling the do...