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happening on the hill, and it's something that i still struggle to work through. the emotions of that. >> joining us now is olivia troye, former top aide to vice president mike pence. she attended the hearing today. she is a former colleague of cassidy hutchinson. olivia, i just want to read for the audience the tweet that she was just talking about. it was donald trump tree tweeting at 20 4 pm on the capitol, and that was being televised, he was watching it. he tweeted, mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, g...

to hang on to power, no matter the cost. this is what was revealed in bombshell tome by cassidy hutchinson, a former top aide to mark meadows. it was made clear that trump knew the dangers that existed on the day of the insurrection. hutchinson testified she heard the names of the extremist groups the oath keepers and the proud boys brought up during planning meetings for the january 6th rally. quote, when mr. giuliani would be around. and she said the justice department's national security division warned that some maga supporters were going to try to, quote, occupy federal building...

So, it should be pretty quick and easy for the panel to get engel or the unnamed driver of the beast that day, all under oath discussing the actions as hutchinson described them and discussing what happened. we also know the committee has already spoken to engel but it's not clear if when they spoke to those two men they were aware of what hutchinson said about the conversation that she had with the two of them afterwards. so the short answer on that is republicans are pushing back and there's a lot more to come. >> i would love to hear what he had to say. if that's one of the depositions on v...

Were aware of what hutchinson said about the conversation she had with two of them. the short answer is republicans are pushing back and there's a lot more. >> i would love to hear what arnotto had to say and if that's one of the depositions on video. glenn, ms. hutchinson spoke to the committee after switching attorneys. she had a very trump friendly attorney, then she switched to a very jeff sessions world attorney. and so, you know, that seemed to -- i don't know if that made a difference, but she definitely is not being -- her lawyers don't come from trump's inner circle and their world. t...

Quixote. michael cohen's legal battle shakeup foretells a possible battle with trump." and democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. let's get the update on michael cohen, emily. everyone keeps asking him if he's going to flip. why wouldn't he and what's the timeline on this? >> well, michael cohen is in a place of leverage right now. he feels like he has not been protected by the president, by the president's family and be his inner circle in washington and this is a man who's been around for more than a decade and seen a lot of things and done a lot of things. he has not been supporte...