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We just want steel slats and that's what we wanted for a while. no, that's not true. it was a concrete wall during the 2016 campaign and it has been one up until now and now the president is trying to act as steel slates are something different. but it's something heef khe's come up with and they're not. >> i do think that this purported national emergency the president's talking about could be an exit strategy. he could say -- because he signaled this before the shutdown occurred where he said, well, even if democrats don't give me this money, i'm going to use the military to build the wall. ...

As nadine was saying there's really no way to know exactly what trump wants. senator lindsey graham and trump and even nick mulvaney earlier today were trying to says it not exactly a wall, it's not exactly a concrete barrier. we just want steel slats and that's what we wanted for a while. no, that's not true. it was a concrete wall during the 2016 campaign and it has been one up until now and now the president is trying to act as steel slates are something different. but it's something heef he's come up with and they're not. >> i do think that this purported national emergency the president's...