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between the president and the vice president, is that correct? >> yes. >> when i entered the office the second time he was on the telephone with who i later out to found out to be the vice president. >> could you hear the vice president or only hear the president's end? >> only hear the president's end. at some point it started off as a calmer tone and became heated. >> the conversation was pretty heated. >> did you hear any part of the phone call even just the end that the president was speaking from? >> i did, yes. >> all right. what did you hear? >> as i was dropping off the note,...

All vice president pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people. i said mike that doesn't courage. what takes courage is to do nothing. >> it was a total eclipse of democracy that day . >> he already knew what pence was going to do. he knew mike pence was going to certify the election. purposefully, he was lying to his supporters because he knew what pence was going to do and he was revving them up because