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Not one, but two guilty former trump aides. robert mueller and michael cohen. why he ripped up manafort's plea deal. they must explain the nature of the crimes and lies which you call the legal break up. manafort was account said of being a liane and a cheater and the head of a criminal experience. people already know that. what we don't know is what else he did after all of that. stuff that got the big deal with the special counsel blown up. then there is the other deadline. a recommendation for michael cohen and not only bob mueller who oversaw 70 hours of interviews, but crimes by the

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And defend the president, but that's not what happened. >> i'm not saying -- >> there are communications that prove he was lying about saying the deal was over at the same time the president was saying he had no business with russia, which is demonstrably false. >> right, but at the same time, i think it's interesting that the mueller investigation after all this time and all this money has figured out that a developer was trying to build a hotel. this is ridiculous as far as i'm concerned -- >> they found out that a president was lying about what he was trying to do, and he wasn't trying to d...

The things he said to date have been all over the place. so, to say that what michael cohen says is gospel is just irresponse -- >> we'll have plenty more time to discuss this. distinguish what michael cohen has only said versus what this special counsel has been able to corroborate. and the reason that he said, in the pleading that he put his name on, robert mueller, that they believe cohen to be credible about what he said about the timing of the russia deal because they had documentary evidence of the same. it's not just his word. we have to leave it there, though. norm eisen, thank you ver...

Organization, was charged with going out and trying to find deals and getting a piece of them if he succeeded. >> yes. >> he wasn't succeeding. he actually rarely succeeded in these big deals, sold a lot of apartments, got a lot of slices of apartment sales, but didn't succeed in these big deals. it was another big deal that michael cohen was pursuing and the president was encouraging, he and all other people who were off pursuing deals to find those deals in case he had to continue his business and did not become president. >> understood. >> i don't believe that the president was intimately i...