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Officials, to does overturning certain states' counting of electoral college results. and later, by the way, this also details that madows was the one who sent that john eastman memo to the vice president's staff, telling him options, basically, all unconstitutional, as how the former vice president could object to election results on january 6th. i mean, there's a lot to get into here, but this of course was the last resort from the committee. they did not want to hold meadows in contempt of congress, because we know with steve bannon, this process is lengthy, and it doesn't always mean, even...

Strategist doesn't make a good governance person in either your office or in this case, the presidency. and the president needs to make that determination. and that's where a good chief of staff can come in and sort of sort those things out. not just because they were there during the nastiness of the campaign, as i said, doesn't always mean, you know, they're right for position a or position b. they all have a skill set and a talent set that the president should taken advantage of, but, again, i wouldn't make a lot of it -- this is a human nature event, when you go something, through a campai...

Through the ride with the candidate all along, versus people who are coming in, you know, in the latter days of the campaign, latter months of the campaign, or even now that east president-elect? >> you know, i think that plays into every candidate for office. sometimes your best campaign strategist doesn't make a good governance person in either your office or in this case, the presidency. and the president needs to make that determination. and that's where a good chief of staff can come in and sort of sort those things out. not just because they were there during the nastiness of the campaig...