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Same number, i do think she has more natural support from the democratic party. but i think all the analysis does ignore one important fact. he is the incumbent. and -- >> do you think that is an advantage for him? because we now know what a -- >> it seemed like an advantage three or four months ago when the economy seemed to be strong. all the norm violating seemed to be something people in washington were concerned about, but it wasn't affecting people much. they couldn't quite see the consequences. i think both of those things have changed. when suddenly you're the incumbent and the economy...

Warren, sanders, harris or biden. his number doesn't change. >> you know, chuck, when some of these polls initially came out earlier in the year it showed that tier candidates and beto o'rourke in some cases could beat donald trump. i think we all sort of looked at these polls and said i'm not quite sure if these are right. but we've seen this time and time again, and i think it has to do with exactly what andrea was saying. people are exhausted. people want normalcy restored to washington. there's a lot of moderates and independent voters out there who would be more than fine with a democrat ...

Presidential, a lot of is is inciting what we're seeing throughout the country and using words such as go back to the country you came from, s-hole countries, where was anthony scaramucci when this was happening. >> to say nothing of when he was claiming barack obama was born in kenya. the idea donald trump is new or his behavior is new is not realistic to me. however, i just would offer one word of caution that always seems appropriate. we always talk about turning points in donald trump's popularity, presidency and the polls never change of the polls never change. he's there somewhere betwee...

In regards to this. if i were to be able to sit down with these people and talk to them about it, first and foremost, you have to look at the children, the most vulnerable group of our population, and they're doing nothing in any essential way to help them or to care about them. this should be the first focus in regards to what they're doing not an afterthought. >> dr. kraus, we appreciate your thoughts so much. thank you for sharing your expertise with us. >> thank you for having me this morning. >> absolutely. i do want to point out we do understand that for most of those young children or f...

I think people are seeing is if something doesn't change, we're going to be stuck here. there will be no way to address the issues affecting people's lives. i believe you saw this when you were on the ground. it doesn't matter how many times these things happen. there are people in the communities who are affected who find themselves saying, i never thought it would happen to us. that the more people, the number of people who can say that decreases, the number of influence they will have on their lawmakers to say this did happen to us, they don't want it to happen to anyone else and the only w...