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Out and that needs to pbe worke out. bipartisan agreement. >> let me ask you about comments president trump has been making about bob mueller. on this network you were positive about him and his appointment of special counsel. are you concerned about that kind of language from president trump? >> i think mueller is going to complete his investigation and, you know, they're going to get to the bottom of it based on where the evidence takes them. i continue to have confidence in mueller and continue to have confidence as we go forward. >> are you concerned about the things president trump is say...

National intelligence said behind closed doors yesterday. you have a piece out this morning with our friend ashley parker talking about what the president is doing to sort of, i don't want to say blow off steam, but tatalk about russia. early in the morning first thing when he wakes up making this phone call. >> yeah, there's a call that happens almost every day at 6:30 in the morning where he will get on the phone with one of his lawyers or pr strategists on the outside and informal call and they go over the headlines and they check in and he blows off some steam. it's a presidential venting ...

Hans, what are these guys doing? do we know? >> some indication from public testimony that they're preparing things. i think when we look at the potential that president donald trump would respond in some sort of cybercapacity against russia, you have to look at what is noncyberout there. a bill coursing through congress right now. the senate has approved increased sanctions and the house hasn't decided yet. donald trump will sign that into law and increase sanctions on russia. to get a sense on where he is on the noncyberfront, we have to look at how he responds to election. again, no one ack...

It in obamacare told him he would give him 16 million more people with health insurance. the cbo model ehinge hinges on you have -- we're not going taforce you to buy insurance. we'll accept that kind of negative number if it means a more voluntary system. >> i was just going to say y want to pick up where you left off here. the nitty-gritty here. we look at where the issues could be. pull up the graphic, if we can. future of medicaid expansion and premiums and defunding of planned parenthood. the devil is in the details. this is. so, i want to get your sense on what happens here and what pres...

Honest, spare me. trump loses on that game. but the reality is, when you're a prosecutor, we want evidence. great. if there are tapes. great if there are transcripts. but in the absence of evidence, mueller is exactly doing that now. he is assembling a dream team to prove what happened. >> how do you see this playing out? >> yeah, i mean, a couple things to look at. number one, if there were tapes, you would have the tapes to go to. some of the house democrats are going to make a bid to make the white house officially say there are no tapes. >> but, it seems like it's a little more nuances her...