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Still found no crimes. it's a pathetic obsession by the media, who got we are in front of their skis on this, reporting inaccurately on something they thought would be the silver bullet. once a white house release the end of her but he looked into it, it turned out leaders have conversations with foreign governments. >> jessica: doesn't concern you there is reporting that the president's own staff was trying to keep him off the phone with ukrainian president because they were worried was going to bring up vice president biden and hunter biden? doesn't that concern you that he use the words "re...

For now and the trump administration resolute in its position. is this going to get dragged out in the courts? >> i agree with you the trump administration is not going to give an inch on this, and they have two not priv lis arguments as ken reported. one is they can say this doesn't trigger the whistleblower statute because it falls outside the universe of intelligence activities. >> that's very specific, intelligence related. >> exactly. now, if you're an intelligence official that got a readout or was present at the conversation, so at least they can say if it doesn't concern intelligence a...

Heard so much about and this strong denial, i know, kaitlan, for a little while. what is your sense? is this a serious consideration for the president or a trial balloon. >> he admitted he was thinking about if but the broader point is they are looking behind the scenes to stave off an economic turn down because even though she say they are not concerned about the recession, we are seeing concern in the white house. but the double edge sword is if it gets out they are preparing for a recession and downturn then it will lead to americans tightening they are belt and lead to more problems with t...

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Should have happened you know a year or eighteen months ago many of the things we're seeing right now seem to be you know horribly overdue and i'm wondering when the european union looks at that and thinks about the euro skepticism that has been growing i mean what lessons can be drawn here do you think that the brics and experience and the end of the day will they be help the stability and the solidarity within the e.u. . well certainly the evidence so far at terms of the any surveys or our polling that's been done on the approval ratings of the e.u. they have gone up. that is indicative of t...