heard so much about and this strong denial, i know, kaitlan, for a little while. what is your sense? is this a serious consideration for the president or a trial balloon. >> he admitted he was thinking about if but the broader point is they are looking behind the scenes to stave off an economic turn down because even though she say they are not concerned about the recession, we are seeing concern in the white house. but the double edge sword is if it gets out they are preparing for a recession and downturn then it will lead to americans tightening they are belt and lead to more problems with the economy and so they are saying publicly they are not considering anything and even though the president said today the tay roll tax -- the payroll tax cut has been on his mind among other measures. >> but it was directly undercut the message about the strength of the economy. >> right. but the president doesn't concern himself with undercutting his own message, it is what he's saying at this