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To be easy but it isn't. >> gun legislation, immigration as well. as i started the segment here today, representative nadler, the question was, with that relatively quick bipartisan budget deal, how much did that increase your hopefulness for what might happen in this final second half of the 113th? >> i am pessimistic. >> it went down? >> no. it didn't go down, but it didn't go up very much. that was a very minor deal. it was -- the republicans had been severely wounded politically by the shutdown. they didn't want to do that again. so we have a very minor deal which doesn't really deal with ...

Basically executing that warrant, he essentially put into play, in terms of potential prosecution what exactly he said he didn't do. that's next to impossible. by executing that warrant, hotdogs -- his actions do not mesh with his words? >> julie, did he tell the truth? >> the question is the word potential prosecution, not literal prosecution -- >> when you execute the warrant -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i am about to agree with you. if you let me. he hears the word potential. he's parsing his words. i'm not a lawyer, i don't know if he perjured himself. but it doesn't sound or smell so good...

Application, there are something like 70 questions. there is a certain set of information you are supposed to provide. when the irs started this effort, it completely departed from the approved rule of law, the approved process and has created something that really has gone from being an objective standard that would apply to everybody, regardless of their political beliefs to now one that is subjective. we don't know what the legal standard is that they are applying and they are applying it only to certain groups and individuals, based on their political philosophy. that doesn't sound like th...

From food stamps, turns medicaid into block grant program. that is draconian. if you talk about suffering, that's basically a piece of paper that's filled with all kinds of suffering. >> yeah. i mean paul krugman said in his op-ed that your seriousness is measured by the pain you want to inflict on the poor, at least in washington that is. if you look at it from a substantive angle, what we have here are fiscal hawks saying we have to go at the budget and deficits by going after discretionary spending which doesn't deal with long term issues in the country. so we're hurting ourselves or potent...

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