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See there? the trump tax cuts, the opposition was far greater than the support but the republicans passed something. and in passing something, they were able to rally the base and trump's approval rating went higher. given that the biden bills are popular, you have to at least potentially see the possibility given how unpopular biden is at this point that this could boost his popularity at a time that he needs it. >> one step sideways. the knock is going to be, first of all, they've got to figure out how to pay for it. and it's going to be a lot of taxing the rich. but while taxes, people don'...

Hypotheticals than anyone. >> would you vote yes on an infrastructure bill? >> i would vote yes on an infrastructure bill that the progressives were part of negotiating and that had the president's priorities. mere we have an infrastructure bill that says we won't have electric buses, we won't have an clean energy standard, we won't take any advice or perspective from progressives. and now you want us to just vote for that? that was never the agreement. if you wanted to do an infrastructure bill and you had progressives there and you wanted to have clean energy standards, sure, i could vote fo...

Votes, they cheat on the election. >> the man will lie and stop at nothing. are the democrats playing like that's what they're playing against? let's bring in a better mind, van jones, the one and only. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> am i missing something? >> well, listen, i think it's a healthy debate. i know right now people are biting their nails, it's a tough week. but the progressives have a point. the policies the progressives have been fighting for are wildly popular, insanely popular. and they have the opportunity to get more done. and when you have that moment, you know in p...

Infrastructure bill that the progressives were part of negotiating and that had the president's priorities. mere we have an infrastructure bill that says we won't have electric buses, we won't have an clean energy standard, we won't take any advice or perspective from progressives. and now you want us to just vote for that? that was never the agreement. if you wanted to do an infrastructure bill and you had progressives there and you wanted to have clean energy standards, sure, i could vote for a separate infrastructure bill. but the understanding in the beginning was we're going to do this be...

Were able to rally the base and trump's approval rating went higher. given that the biden bills are popular, you have to at least potentially see the possibility given how unpopular biden is at this point that this could boost his popularity at a time that he needs it. >> one step sideways. the knock is going to be, first of all, they've got to figure out how to pay for it. and it's going to be a lot of taxing the rich. but while taxes, people don't like them, taxing the rich, people like you, harry, everybody is okay with that. when you look across the board, in terms of when you look at numb...