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Of the caravan that the president is creating because that's for his talk radio base. that is very clear. so the problem is the president doesn't deal in facts or truth. and so when we're trying to move forward with policy, we have to sort of undo some of his mind-set. now, the interesting -- hold on, let me finish. >> sure. >> so the interesting thing though is we also know this president doesn't respect his own party. so he may actually decide to just do a deal with nancy and chuck based on however they configure their negotiation and leave mitch mcconnell looking in the wind because he does...

His members. listen, he's a part of the first branch of government too, and for him to sit back and say i have no role here, i'm just a minion of the presidency and the white house, degrades the office that he has and degrades the united states senate. so i think he's going to have to get off his back side and get into this. why doesn't he vote on the bill that came over or make changes to that bill and send it back or put his own bill on the floor? he's being entirely at this point passive, in part i grant you because he doesn't know what trump is going to do. but you know what the solution t...

Shown leadership. the house under house speaker paul ryan passed the bill with the funding. so mitch mcconnell could have taken the quote/unquote nuclear option. >> mitch mcconnell tried to deliver a deal to trump months ago and trump pulled the plug on it at the last minute. this is again someone who can't even do a deal with members of his own party. this is not mitch mcconnell's fault. this solely resides with president trump. >> no, no, no. >> if there's a crisis on the southern border -- >> the house passed a funding bill that includes funding for the -- >> which there isn't. apprehension...

Nomination. it was immigration. so i think woe be unto any democrat who doesn't understand the reason trump is in the white house is because of immigration. and we do have a border crisis. we do. life expectancy declined in this country for the second year in a row. we haven't seen that since world war i. one of the key reasons was drugs. and drugs -- >> the question is -- >> can i finish? drugs coming over our southern border, fentanyl, is driving a lot of this decline in the life expectancy. this is a crisis. and so i think -- >> what's the question about the win? >> i'm just trying to figur...

For him to sit back and say i have no role here, i'm just a minion of the presidency and the white house, degrades the office that he has and degrades the united states senate. so i think he's going to have to get off his back side and get into this. why doesn't he vote on the bill that came over or make changes to that bill and send it back or put his own bill on the floor? he's being entirely at this point passive, in part i grant you because he doesn't know what trump is going to do. but you know what the solution to that is? the congress makes a deal. they pass laws. they send them to the ...