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They don't seem to be going anywhere. talk to us about the domestic political pressures president biden will face if that happens. we saw the strategic oil reserves. he tapped into those yesterday. if this continues to soar and doctorings on for weeks or months and months perhaps, how is that going to play for a president who has done his absolute best to hold this alliance together and also tell the americans to sacrifice at home. that gets harder if this goes on for a long time? >> it certainly does. it tests the patience of american voters and consumers. it tests the patients of the allianc...

Where it does not belong for a complex public health crisis. how do you respond to those arguments? >> well, i really quite frankly feel they don't have a lot of credibility. we knew the documents were coming out, they talked about creating a blizzard of descriptions that seemed to not give a damn about the families and cities and states impacted by this crisis that they helped create. to me they have no credibility. i will say with what they are saying is we want this to be ex-th expedited, we think this is an unusual circumstance and the supreme court should hear this case so this doesn't dr...

Real legal questions and a suit questioning whether the appointment was constitutional. but this is about flanking the mueller investigation. separately mueller is going to try to go forward, play it by the book and that's where things come to a head in congress. will those republicans who said it would be unwise and dangerous for donald trump to try to stop or shut down or curtail the mueller investigation actually have the spine to back it up if it comes to that. >> there is the question about, yes, mueller wanting to wrap this up so that it doesn't drag on for a number of reasons, but he al...

Interview is something we would consider. i asked him about the 49 or 52 questions in the list i received, his opinion of him. he said it's encouraging that they have no case. very discouraging that they appear to want to trap him into perjury. i asked him of the length of interview. he said somewhere in the neighborhood of two to three hours. certainly we're not going to sit down for 12 hours and then he would want the scope of the questions paired down to just their very basic saying he would want the questions in advance, saying they would have to be about relevant topics, meaning russia, w...

My conversations with people in the senate and in the white house, is that there probably will be a vote before the august recess. if you were going to bet on it you would say there will be a vote. that might bring it to an early conclusion. they all want to move on to tax reform. that's what they want to do. if health care can't be done, they want to find that out sooner rather than later so this doesn't drag on and kill their whole agenda. >> jonathan, charlie and stephanie ruhle, one of the hardest working people at msnbc, good to have you. thank you so much. there is this new police repo...