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Paint him as being, as they say, you know, all hat and no cap. >> well, it's not baseless. and i only say that because, look, he is an outspoken vocal vegan. doesn't drink. he is reportedly dating a hollywood actress. how is that all going to play in the middle of the country? >> i think it will play fine. to robert's point, what's interesting is that he, for that sharp james fight, actually was sort of a precursor for what we saw happened with obama a few years later, and what's interesting is that where obama was this sort of calm, very even tempered sort of guy, which a lot of folks said al...

New stats. lifetime odds of death, you have heart disease and cancer, but look at that, opioid, one in 96 over motor vehicles, one in 103. these are frightening facts. what is the white house doing to end the epidemic? >> the piece you just showed with the president talking about it and finding the legislation, i was in there with him when he did that and he has made such incredible strides. the president and i have been talking about this before he was president. he cares so deeply about this issue. we know the president doesn't drink, the president is so anti-drugs and protecting our childre...

I think they'll have the benefits. >> some of this feels very political. the likability, someone that you can have a beer with. >> i'm gonna get me a beer. hey, my husband, bruce, is now in here. do you want a beer? >> no, i'll pass on the beer for now. >> that sucks for me because i'm a muslim who doesn't drink. and she needs to wear a flannel shirt, also. and she has to go boling in the rust belt and have some real coffee with some real americans. she has to bowl in a nonconsolenon-scoley way and -- >> i'm sorry, did you say you don't know what a rugula is? >> i am from california. i was jus...

Listen, here's probably what won't happen, because especially new yorkers know this, because trump got away with everything for like 40 years. >> he's been getting away with things for decades. >> that, that probably -- that streak shouldn't end this year more than likely because trump has always been careful to be not in the room when the crime is being committed. and so -- >> that's interesting. you think he's canny enough. >> oh, yeah, i think he's very canny. >> i'm not disagreeing. i think there's evidence he's quite canny. >> yes. self-preservation, anything that has to do with the word ...

Be not in the room when the crime is being committed. >> that's interesting. you think he's canny enough. >> oh, yeah, i think he's very canny. >> i'm not disagreeing. i think there's evidence he's quite canny. >> self-preservation, anything that has to do with me, me, me, yes, that is definitely -- he's always thinking how does this affect me? could this hurt me? will i lose money? can i make money? everything is processed through that filter. so if something's going to happen in a room with russians, or others that could find him indicted, i think more than likely, because, remember, he does...