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There. again, this is not the largest number as we have been talking about here. so, for instance, there are asian faces that are a big part of the recipients of snap, me being one of those way back w n when. >> doesn't energize the base. you have to tell the people the narrative and kanye is feeding into that. he's not funny. he's dangerous. the reason he's dangerous is because his intelligence in one particular area, music, and his ability to reach mass audiences through his former instagram profile that had 30 million followers, his deep global cultural impact, people in japan, people in ri...

As a marker, a positive marker for this moment in time i think goes well beyond tone deaf. if that doesn't energize women to vote, i don't know what would. we've had a process so intense. and then to kind of really spike the ball in the end zone in that manner seems to be something that would stoke the fires. >> let's think about the phrase tone deaf. you have to have hearing that's attuned to that frequency. i don't know how many texans. cornyn's not up to vote. but who was pro-ted cruz sees a tweet about beer, and i don't even mean to keep it that narrow. and that goes for beto o'rourke. i d...

>> leland: are they making the best of the situation the democrats have put them. if they hold the vote, a lot of republicans who are terrified of the precer cushions of that and how how much that would energize the democratic. >> let me tell you this, if they don't confirm judge kavanaugh it's going to demoralize the republican base. leland: is it going demoralize them -- if all of a sudden you have a supreme court vacancy come the midterms, november 6, kavanaugh decides that he doesn't wanting to through the process anymore, the republicans delay the vote, whatever it is that doesn't energiz...

>> well, it actually might and the reaction from the former president's remarks yesterday indicated that. "a," the first thing he said, he watched the speech but then he fell asleep. and then he said later to a crowd at one of the fund-raisers that he was speaking at, if this doesn't energize you, then nothing will. ievnl i think that he likes to have a sparring partner. if president obama presents himself as that sparring partner, i suspect that president trump will welcome that, as will some of the people around him, as they look to somebody to kind of show his base and show the people who t...

Base, no question about it. what you don't want to do is energize the other side even more. there's ways of energizing the base that doesn't energize the other side. again, you have to strike that balance. >> how do you walk that fine line is the challenge for people who see the world as you do, politically. >> attack what needs to be attacked. there's a lot to attack in president trump, but you have to offer a positive message of what we can do to make things better. you can't just say things are bad, things are bad. i used to say, satire. satire is always tearing things down. it's fine. you ...