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Including some of his advisers, like rudy giuliani who was speaking at that rally before the invasion of the capitol. those are the types of documents that we know they were looking for. and we know those are the types of things that the former president believes are falling under what he says was -- is his executive privilege. now, of course, as you guys just discussed, this is the privilege that belongs to the current president. and former president trying to assert that he can go into this, he is going to have to probably file a lawsuit to try to sustain that idea, erin. and keep in mind, l...

Receive that? do they want a candidate who might be indicted as the standard bearer for the party s going into 2024? >> you bring up a great point, jim. i have two sources close to the president who think that donald trump is at least expressing to allies that he plans to run again in 2024. and that's before this news came down about the grand jury. when i was talking to these sources they said, look. donald trump will say things and then doesn't follow through. this may not be the first time he's making the 2024 potential candidate field dance. he's making sure that people keep on kissing the...

Making it again the g-8 i don't think they really trust that. if you look at the statement by the spokesperson for the foreign ministry, she said if this is serious, let's have a formal, you know, legal proposal and take it off, as she put it, the social media sphere. so they're not really, you know, buying this because i do believe that president putin thinks that he could be hurt if he jumps on board and then it doesn't happen or president trump doesn't follow through. >> you know, pam, this is really a very prickly g-7 because when you look at the list of, you know, all of these industriali...

Companies before. he said, you better do a, b and c. and he ordered people to come to a rally, essentially, at a plant. they all showed up. like, he has been able to bully people. why shouldn't he be able to threaten, i'm going to put sanctions on you, amazon.com. i'm going to put sanctions on american companies if they godot get out of china. >> this is what he does. he claims to do something, he says, this is a national emergency, and he does it, and we don't hear anything about it. or he says he's going to do it and nothing happens. his own administration doesn't follow through. donald trum...

Wreaking havoc on communities already here. "the washington post" reported yesterday that actually 20% of legal immigrants living in new york city have already withdrawn from a lot of benefits they're recipients of because they're living in fear. changing asylum laws, deporting, mass deportations there are tons of americans living in fear at the moment. >> if i could just add, on a positive note, there are so many charitable organizations in this country that i would expect would stand up. we are the most charitable country in the world. not taking away from the obligation the government shoul...